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More with Marine Company K……..The goings get rough…..and the local’s understand…..

[An American Marine walked past an Afghan cemetery in Marja on Tuesday.]

We continue our journey in the current U.S. Marine and Afghan offensive in the Marja area in Afghanistan……This piece explores the ground war which is very concentrated after a quiet arrival of the troops….

The embeds also seem to be more interested in reporting the civilian deaths part of the war…which is understandable….after all ….they are civilians…not soilders….who’s objective is to defeat the enemy …and take ground……but this is a war..and people do get hurt and killed …..

…On must remember that in deference to Iraq…..the Aftghans are better, tougher fighters in general than the Iraq’s where…and a big part of the reason for that is that the United States trained a lot of these people years ago to fight the Russians ( who quit the area )…..What comes around…Goes around, eh?

This from the New York Times piece from the embedded reporters……

Colonel Christmas, commander of the Third Battalion, Sixth Marines, had arrived near this place in northern Marja by helicopter just before dawn; his beleaguered Company K, after three days of heavy fighting, was finally getting resupplied. Bridges had been put over the canals nearby, so roads could reopen.

“The resistance has been a little thicker than I would have liked for the forces I have,” the colonel said, as he led a foot patrol over to the house later in the day.

On Sunday, Company K had been in its fighting positions a couple of hundred yards away from the family’s mud-walled compound when the rocket or rockets struck it. Since then, several versions of what happened have emerged.

Eager to demonstrate the coalition’s commitment to avoid civilian casualties, and to take responsibility for them when they do happen, the American commander in Afghanistan, Gen.Stanley A. McChrystal, immediately issued a statement saying that 12 civilians had been accidentally killed, that the rocket launcher had missed its target by 300 meters and would be suspended from service, and that apologies had been conveyed to President Hamid Karzai. An investigation was ordered.

The investigation found that the targeting system — the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System — had not been defective, a spokesman for the NATO-led coalition force, Lt. Col. Todd Vician of theUnited States Air Force, said Tuesday. He said the suspension was lifted, allowing the system to be returned to use as a defensive weapon. As to what did happen, however, he said, “We are still waiting for those results and hope to have an answer soon.”

To the Marines of Company K, and an embedded reporter accompanying them, one thing seemed clear: the company had not ordered a rocket strike on that house. At the time they were taking fire from many houses in the area.

“The original target of the two rockets was a compound where insurgents were delivering accurate, direct fire on an Afghan-ISAF joint team,” according to a Sunday news release by the NATO-led force, the International Security Assistance Force.

That team was Company K, with an Afghan Army unit attached to it. “The compound that was hit was not the one we were targeting,” the company commander said that day.

After the Marines saw children stream out of the ruined house, the company commander immediately ordered a cease-fire. With Taliban snipers still trying to pick them off, his men raced across the flat, open expanse between their positions and the house, where medics rendered what first aid they could.

And this……

At a news conference on Monday, the Afghan interior minister, Muhammad Hanif Atmar, flanked by the Afghan minister of defense and the army commander for Helmand, said that only 9 of the 12 dead in the house were civilians, and that the other 3 were Taliban insurgents who had forced their way into the house and used it as a fighting position.

He said local tribal leaders were “deeply saddened,” but not angry. “I will quote one of them,” Mr. Atmar said, “ ‘We are very sad about the civilian casualties but if nine civilians have died, hundreds of thousands will get freedom.’ ” Marja has 80,000 residents.

The Afghan government’s account seemed at best debatable on Tuesday. For one thing, if there had been weapons in the house, the Marines would most likely have found them.

At this point, though, the Americans are not jumping to any conclusions.

The Marines have bent over backwards to help things…..

In the mud-brick charnel house where the Afghans were killed, Hajji Karim, the local elder, took up Colonel Christmas’s offer of assistance on Tuesday.

The victims had already been dead for more than two days. Muslims believe in prompt burial, but the family had no way to carry the bodies through the battlefield to the provincial capital of Lashkar Gah, 17 miles away. Would the Americans take them?

Within hours, a Marine Corps Osprey, a transport aircraft that can take off and land like a helicopter, put down nearby, taking enemy fire as it came in, and the Marines grimly loaded the bodies aboard for the trip to the cemetery.

February 17, 2010 - Posted by | Counterpoints, Government, Media, Men, Military, Politics | ,


  1. They really SCREWED up when they killed 12 civilians recently with the ROCKETS

    every day WE are creating more public relations problems with more of the Afghan populace with our OCCUPATION

    Comment by Timothy Peter Leal | February 17, 2010 | Reply

    • Ok….you got that right public relations….

      Did you read the piece?…..the people there do not want to lose one person…but understand that if ‘stuff’ happens…. they can live with it for their freedom……

      Comment by jamesb101 | February 17, 2010 | Reply

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