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The Dogs take on Alvin Greene getting elected……

Ok…Its been few days now and after checking some stuff over at Fivethirtyeight and other media stories…I think I can GUESS on how the thing went down…..

Alvin Greene ran for the Senate from South Carolina ……we know that….

Why …or how he got the $10,400 filling check…we don’t know….

How he got elected seems to be like this…

Vic Rawl doesn’t have many friends….

From reports he isn’t really popular (18% negative numbers ) in the state…..

Alvin Geene was/is an unknown….

He says he went around the state informally campaigning…but most people doubt that….

And Greene’s name comes FIRST on the ballot.….

Now the good part….

Evidently in South Carolina …or down South…Everybody….Black and White knowns that if you spell your name Browne or Greene with an ‘e’ on the end……You’re black….

Greene took almost all the black  vote in the state….But also held his own in GOP counties also….

Most of the people analysing the race have no reason for why Green did alright in GOP area’s except to say that most people already think DeMint has the seat on lockdown….

The reviewers DO NOT think there was a deliberate vote for Greeene by Republicans…..


To Sum up….

Greene thru the circimstances in play……first name on the ballot….. the base black vote….. done, it appears on his name…since virtually no one had heard,  or seen him before the vote…Rawl wasn’t popular…..so he didn’t even garner enough votes in the white area’s..those people stayed home…..

And lastly …….Greene seemed to get votes in the white area’s also…..even though people had no idea who he was….

No matter what…..Not a good case for Rawl….I’d think…..

Check the last sentence below on DeMint…..

Could there be another upset down the road?


From FivethirtyEight.…..

That leaves what I think are now two scenarios:

A. The first is a combination of the first and second possibilities of my initial post: Greene was a nobody, but Rawl was darn near close to a nobody, and thus Greene’s alphabetical ballot position, coupled with whatever signal the spelling of his surname sent to some African Americans that he might be (and in fact is) an African American, with a dash of Rawl’s high disapproval among the 18 percent of survey respondents who had heard of him, combined to take what in theory might otherwise have been a 50/50 split among two broadly unknown candidates and turned it instead into a 59/41 race.

B. Somebody with access to software and machines engineered a very devious manipulation of the vote returns–but not so devious that he/she/they were unable to cover the tracks of the digit patterns in those results.

UPDATE: The second commenter to this post, along with a variety of commenters to the previous post and several analysts, have all posed this question about vote-tinkering: Why would the GOP or DeMint or conservatives bother to do so in this race? The assumption is that DeMint will cruise. And he probably will. But given that he was expected to run against a virtual unknown in Rawl, DeMint’s head-to-head numbers were pretty dismal in this (presumably internal) poll, and put him not entirely out of reach even in this PPP poll taken a week or so before the primary. So I’m not entirely sure DeMint, though very safe, was a lock to win re-election.

…see also 


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June 12, 2010 - Posted by | Blogs, Breaking News, Counterpoints, Government, Media, Men, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Polls, Projections, Updates | , , ,

19 Comments »

  1. Evidently in South Carolina …or down South…Everybody….Black and White knowns that if you spell your name Browne or Greene with an ‘e’ on the end……You’re black….
    ——————————————–

    You racist lil monkey

    STOP trying to spin this

    http://www.jeffgreene.com/

    Comment by Timothy Leal | June 12, 2010 | Reply

    • Woa TPL!

      You comment is BULLSHIT….

      I am mentioning something that is a fact….

      Reported in the links…

      Slow your roll!……

      Comment by jamesb101 | June 12, 2010 | Reply

      • Lorne Greene and Richard Greene (the actors) were black?

        Al Green (the singer) was white?

        Comment by Democratic Socialist Dave | June 12, 2010

      • Richard Greene?

        I had not thought of him for years!

        What a great TV Show opening!

        And what a great theme song!

        Maybe Al could adapt it.

        Sing with me!

        “Alvin Greene, Alvin Greene

        He’s a site to see!

        Alvin Greene, Alvin Greene

        The next Senator from SC

        He’ll give to the poor

        and to himself even more!

        Alvin Greene!

        Alvin Greene!

        Alvin Greene!

        Comment by Manila Calling! | June 12, 2010

  2. Well, like you said, where did the $10k come from?
    I’m really upset about this – it’s a freak show. The guy doesnt’t understand one bit. He never ran for office by himself. And who filled out the papers? This show is inhumane..

    Comment by talkandpolitics | June 12, 2010 | Reply

  3. I’m with you….I mention this everytime….

    Who gave him the money?

    If it’s legit than he should stay in until they take him out for the arrest…which is just an arrest at this time or because he driopps out on his own….

    Can you imagine….. they drop the charges…DeMint screws up and this guy becomes a senator!!!???

    Comment by jamesb101 | June 12, 2010 | Reply

    • Ha! It’s the plot from “Being There”!!

      Comment by talkandpolitics | June 12, 2010 | Reply

      • How about “F Troop?”

        He just has to sneeze!

        Comment by Manila Calling! | June 12, 2010

  4. B. Somebody with access to software and machines engineered a very devious manipulation of the vote returns–but not so devious that he/she/they were unable to cover the tracks of the digit patterns in those results.
    ——————————

    and that is why I summoned the Association of Old Crows

    Comment by Timothy Leal | June 12, 2010 | Reply

  5. TPL!…..

    Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by jamesb101 | June 12, 2010 | Reply

  6. I am mentioning something that is a fact….
    —————-

    slow my roll

    EXCUSE me

    Does this gentleman with the last name of Greene LOOK African American

    http://www.jeffgreene.com/

    I have to deal with enough racist crap from jack in SC, GOPBullshit, and Scott P

    I cant deal with adding you the mix

    Comment by Timothy Leal | June 12, 2010 | Reply

    • Face up to it!

      Greene is the color here!

      Alvin must have hit a Bonanza to get the application money!

      The only question is now is if his campaign effort for Lorne?

      Comment by Manila Calling! | June 12, 2010 | Reply

  7. I would never in my life vouch for GOPBiullshit but please give ONE INSTANCE where Jack or myself have been “racist”.

    You can’t can you nut?

    Comment by Scott P | June 12, 2010 | Reply

    • Another name from the past!

      Comment by jamesb101 | June 12, 2010 | Reply

  8. Enough about Al.

    Should Gulf Oil change it’s name?

    That is the question.

    Comment by Manila Calling! | June 12, 2010 | Reply

  9. I have thought a lot about the allegations that someone payed Greenes filing fee

    And I believe someone did

    The problem I have is

    What was the motive?

    Its been suggested it was Republicans worling on Demints behalf to wound his presumptive foe Rawl

    The problem with that is that Rawl while certainly a more viable opponent than Greene

    Still was a distinct underdog in a deeply red state against an opponent who pollwise is one of the most popular politicos in the state

    And certainly they would have no reason to believe Greene would win

    If this allegation is true then theres the fly in the ointment

    Greene wasnt supposed to WIN

    But now he has

    Will he talk?

    Comment by My Name Is jack | June 13, 2010 | Reply

  10. The more I dug on the story…..the more it became apparent that Rawl was NOT popular……

    He lot by 100,000 votes…..This wasn’t even close….

    The Democrats really don’t have anything going in this race….

    A nobody set up to run against an unpopular guy….

    I watched Clyburn on TV…..
    Really….he’s just besides himself…..
    Blaming the GOP….
    The bottom line here…
    Even you don’t really care for DeMint…..
    You got him…..

    Comment by jamesb101 | June 13, 2010 | Reply

  11. Actually Rawl wasnt very well known outside of Charleston and the lower coastal areas

    Comment by My Name Is jack | June 13, 2010 | Reply

  12. Ok…That adds to the suspense……

    Comment by jamesb101 | June 13, 2010 | Reply


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