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The private intelligence network in Afghanistain and Pakistan is still working……..

The New York Times has been heavy on the case of a US Government program that seems to have been set up by some ex-US government good guys, and a few questionable ones…..

If you read military action novels you are very familiar with the scenario where a President…feed up with the bureaucracy involved with the CIA, Military and other agencies…..turns to a few individuals to get the job done…To find out what’s going on without regard to career building, cover your butt, or what the chief executive wants to hear…..That apperas to have  turned into contract for Lockheed….

They in turn  put together a group of former CIA operators, who hired former US special operators (SEAL’s, Deltas and other CIA special operators and natives of the two countries)

This works since the US wants to say it doesn’t have ground troops operating in Pakistan …..

The operation in Afghanistan and Pakistan seems to have morphed into that same thing…..

The names mentioned in the piece are old CIA operators and high up US Military  who left the service to retire when new improved people were brought on board….

These old hands are now running a private service that is paid by the government in a contract to the Lockheed Corporation…..

And let me mention one thing very clearly ……

THE US MILITARY IS VERY HAPPY WITH THE SET-UP!

The New York Times seems a bit indignant  …

But the Generals that run the war are NOT…

The private contractor provides valuable intel…and the while the word has gone out that the operation will not be renewed…

The US military it appears…

DOES NOT WANT IT STOPPED……THEY WANT IT TO CONTINUE….

The whole op is not under investigation by the government but

, Michael D. Furlong ,  is…….And  if my  mind set  is  right….this was the guy who set up Vice President’s  Cheney’s separate intelligence network…….

The New York Times found that Mr. Furlong’s operatives were still providing information using the same intelligence gathering methods as before and because they are using ex-US military operators…..then natural evolution of the program has occurred and those operator ……who are supervised by military people who just a few years ago ran the Iraq war and still have friends in high places and are trusted…carry out ‘wet’ work if it comes their way….

The whole thing is…..

9/11 has changed things…..

This whole story by the New York Times misses a very basic point….

Remember when  General McChrsytal was faced with a choice of what strategy to use in the war last year?

President Obama, the Commander-in-Chief, went with door ‘B’…..the middle troop choice…The US will reach that strength level in Afghanistan by July….But few remember Vice President Biden’s  choice…..I do…..

‘Hunter…Killer Teams”….

That’s what the Lockheed group is doing….

So…..The Vice President got his choice also….Signed off on in 2009 by General Patreaus….

And the Commander – in Chief….

The Operation isn’t going away anytime soon….

No matter how much sunlight the New York Times* shines on it…..

Earlier this year, government officials admitted that the military had sent a group of former Central Intelligence Agency officers and retired Special Operations troops into the region to collect information — some of which was used to track and kill people suspected of being militants. Many portrayed it as a rogue operation that had been hastily shut down once an investigation began.

But interviews with more than a dozen current and former government officials and businessmen, and an examination of government documents, tell a different a story. Not only are the networks still operating, their detailed reports on subjects like the workings of the Taliban leadership in Pakistan and the movements of enemy fighters in southern Afghanistan are also submitted almost daily to top commanders and have become an important source of intelligence.

The American military is largely prohibited from operating inside Pakistan. And under Pentagon rules, the army is not allowed to hire contractors for spying.

Military officials said that when Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top commander in the region, signed off on the operation in January 2009, there were prohibitions against intelligence gathering, including hiring agents to provide information about enemy positions in Pakistan. The contractors were supposed to provide only broad information about the political and tribal dynamics in the region, and information that could be used for “force protection,” they said.

Some Pentagon officials said that over time the operation appeared to morph into traditional spying activities. And they pointed out that the supervisor who set up the contractor network, Michael D. Furlongwas now under investigation.

But a review of the program by The New York Times found that Mr. Furlong’s operatives were still providing information using the same intelligence gathering methods as before. The contractors were still being paid under a $22 million contract, the review shows, managed by Lockheed Martin and supervised by the Pentagon office in charge of special operations policy.

Geoff Morrell, the Pentagon press secretary, said that the program “remains under investigation by multiple offices within the Defense Department,” so it would be inappropriate to answer specific questions about who approved the operation or why it continues.

“I assure you we are committed to determining if any laws were broken or policies violated,” he said. Spokesmen for General Petraeus and Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top American commander in Afghanistan, declined to comment. Mr. Furlong remains at his job, working as a senior civilian Air Force official.

A senior defense official said that the Pentagon decided just recently not to renew the contract, which expires at the end of May. While the Pentagon declined to discuss the program, it appears that commanders in the field are in no rush to shut it down because some of the information has been highly valuable, particularly in protecting troops against enemy attacks.

With the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the expanded role of contractors on the battlefield — from interrogating prisoners to hunting terrorism suspects — has raised questions about whether the United States has outsourced some of its most secretive and important operations to a private army many fear is largely unaccountable. The C.I.A. has relied extensively on contractors in recent years to carry out missions in war zones…….

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The exposure of the spying network also reveals tensions between the Pentagon and the C.I.A., which itself is running a covert war across the border in Pakistan. In December, a cable from the C.I.A.’s station chief in Kabul, Afghanistan, to the Pentagon argued that the military’s hiring of its own spies could have disastrous consequences, with various networks possibly colliding with one another.

The memo also said that Mr. Furlong had a history of delving into outlandish intelligence schemes, including an episode in 2008, when American officials expelled him from Prague for trying to clandestinely set up computer servers for propaganda operations. Some officials say they believe that the C.I.A. is trying to scuttle the operation to protect its own turf, and that the spy agency has been embarrassed because the contractors are outperforming C.I.A. operatives.……….

More…….

Note …….One could get the idea that this piece was written by someone who set out to ‘out the operation’  from a ‘turf’ war point of view……

The author has held back sensitive information he says about the operation…..

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May 16, 2010 Posted by | Aircraft, Breaking News, Counterpoints, Government, Law, Media, Men, Military, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, September 11, Updates | , , , , , , , , , , , | 5 Comments

Holder is right……..

The FBI agents , along with NYPD Detectives that interviewed Faisal Shahzad after he was taken off a flight at New York’s JFK Airport questioned him First…..

Then finding nothing of immediate danger…read him his rights…..

A lot Congressman are mad about that….

Tough Shit……

The FBI agents and NYPD detectives are law enforcement officers…..

The deal with crimes….

Trying to set a van on fire is arson…..

Using firecracker’s to do it…is using explosives….

It appears that the suspect was singing like a bird because right after the FBI, NYPD  and ‘other’ people got finished talking to him….

Things started happening (arrests ) in Pakistan……

In the end this whole thing is going to end up in front of a judge…..

Wither they make a deal..or there is a trial (unlikely )…..

With the track record in these things…

Since this guy IS singing

It’s better to get things right……

Holder also said that Shahzad, 30, a naturalized U.S. citizen originally from Pakistan, could face life in prison if convicted on terrorism charges. An FBI complaint issued Tuesday accused Shahzad of five felony counts of attempting to detonate explosives in Times Square and said he had admitted his involvement. Shahzad has not yet appeared in court, however. A federal court appearance originally set for Tuesday was postponed amid indications that interrogators wanted to continue questioning him before bringing him before a judge.

Some congressional Republicans have criticized the administration’s handling of the Shahzad case, questioning the decision to read him his Miranda rights and saying he should have immediately been treated as an enemy combatant.

Holder rejected such criticism under questioning at Thursday’s hearing. He said the Supreme Court has held that Miranda warnings have a “constitutional dimension” and that every American who is arrested has a right to hear them.

He added that “there are exceptions to Miranda, and that is one of the ways in which we conduct our interrogations of terrorism suspects.” He cited a “public safety exception” that allows police or federal agents to question suspected terrorists about such matters as whether they are acting alone, know of other threats or have anyone coming to help them.

More……..

May 6, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Counterpoints, Crime, Government, Law, Media, Men, Other Things, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, September 11, Updates | , , , | 3 Comments

The Predators, Global Hawks and U-2’s dump too much video info…

In a piece in the New York Times that deals with  the real problem in battle field and general  intelligence  gathering……The CIA, Army, Air Force and Marines collect so much video intelligence that they don’t get to react to most of it……in addtion, the military, domestic law enforcement agencies and battle field commanders most of the time can’t get the video collecting source to eyeball what they actual need at any given time…..

It seems that agencies have gotten themselves into a situation where they can look at anything that moves, but can’t really see it, and distinguish what is useful and what is not…..

TOO MUCH info…..is the problem…..and what to do with it…..

The military has turned to the NFL of all places to study how producer ‘in the trucks on lot’ decide what to give to the directors in the booth…..life imatating the art of sport broadcasting to get the bad guys……

Note:…..they do lucky and spot bad guys who get taken out from time to time and never have to worry about captured pilots……

January 11, 2010 Posted by | Computers, Government, Media, Military, PoliticalDog Calls, Updates | , | Leave a comment

The Predators, Global Hawks and U-2's dump too much video info…

In a piece in the New York Times that deals with  the real problem in battle field and general  intelligence  gathering……The CIA, Army, Air Force and Marines collect so much video intelligence that they don’t get to react to most of it……in addtion, the military, domestic law enforcement agencies and battle field commanders most of the time can’t get the video collecting source to eyeball what they actual need at any given time…..

It seems that agencies have gotten themselves into a situation where they can look at anything that moves, but can’t really see it, and distinguish what is useful and what is not…..

TOO MUCH info…..is the problem…..and what to do with it…..

The military has turned to the NFL of all places to study how producer ‘in the trucks on lot’ decide what to give to the directors in the booth…..life imatating the art of sport broadcasting to get the bad guys……

Note:…..they do lucky and spot bad guys who get taken out from time to time and never have to worry about captured pilots……

January 11, 2010 Posted by | Computers, Government, Media, Military, PoliticalDog Calls, Updates | , | Leave a comment