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What do you do In The Country after you get rid of the bad guy Running the Country?

That seems to be a recurring theme for the US and NATO thru the years….

As this piece from the Atlantic by James Joyner points out…..

Mommar Gaddafi is gonna be out of Libya sooner or later….

When that occurs…..

What’s gonna happen?

As we see in several countries …

Replacing the bad guy running the show creates a vacuum…

That creates unrest…

Unrealistic  expectations by the masses…..

And of course an oppountity by an organized opposition that often finds itself as the ONLY organized body…

All this the country has to continue running itself with with same corrupt people stealing from its population even if the head of the bad guy is gone….

So as in Iraq and Egypt….

What will happen in Libya when the time comes?

“Getting Libya back on its feet will be an unwieldy, and probably fractious, process in which many scores are settled against those who once supported the Gaddafi regime. But the problem is, of course, that much like in the former Soviet satellites in Eastern Europe, virtually everyone at one point or another had to deal with the regime to survive. Unless political authority can be restored quickly, the sorting out of claims will undoubtedly be a bloody affair in light of the pent-up frustration that is now being released.”

James Dorsey noted for Al Arabiya recently, “The immediate problems Libyans and the international community will have to address once Mr. Qaddafi departs are huge and so are the potential pitfalls. The problems include restoring and maintaining law and order; securing basic services such as food, water and energy; achieving international recognition of a post-Qaddafi government; resuming oil exports to ensure funding for the new government; and kick starting Libya’s stagnating economy.”

He noted, “Anticipating the need to maintain security, avoid violent revenge and retribution and ensure that a post-Qaddafi government gets off to a good start, some US commanders, including Admiral Samuel Locklear, NATO’s joint operations chief in Naples, and General Carter Ham, who runs the US military’s Africa Command, have suggested that United Nations or African Union peacekeepers would have to be inserted into Libya once Mr. Qaddafi has been removed from power.”

The parallels with Iraq are eerie. In his seminal work on that conflict, Fiasco, Thomas Ricks quotes Major Isaiah Wilson, the official Army historian of the spring 2003 invasion and later strategic planner in Iraq saying that there was “no single plan as of 1 May 2004 that described an executable approach to achieving the stated strategic endstate for war.” Joint Staff officer Gregory Gardner explained why: “Politically, we’d made a decision that we’d turn it over to the Iraqis in June” 2003. Additionally, an Army War College study found, what little planning there was for post-conflict stabilization was predicated on the unfounded assumption that “the international community would pick up the slack.”

More ….

From Politicaldog101.Com….

July 22, 2011 Posted by | Breaking News, Counterpoints, Crime, Family, Food, Government, Health, Healthcare, Home, Law, Media, Men, Military, Other Things, Politics, Projections, Taxes, The Economy, Updates, Women | , , | Leave a comment

From the Foreign Desk 3/29/11…

From the BBC….

Arms to Libya rebels ‘not ruled out’

US President Barack Obama says he does not rule out arming the rebels in Libya as government forces push them back…..

From Politicaldog101

Anger as Yemen blast toll rises

The death toll from explosions at an ammunition plant in southern Yemen has risen to 150.

Initial reports said 78 had died, but more bodies have since been pulled out of the factory in the town of Jaar.

The explosion has caused great anger among locals, who accuse the authorities of planning it to try to win further support from the US, a BBC correspondent says.

Yemeni officials have blamed al-Qaeda for the blasts.

The explosions came after weeks of protests against President Ali Abdullah Saleh’s rule…..

 

Syrian cabinet quits amid unrest

 

The Syrian government has resigned, state-run television has said.

President Bashar al-Assad accepted the cabinet’s resignation following a meeting on Tuesday.

The resignation is the latest concession by the government aimed at curbing pro-democracy protests in which dozens of people have been killed.

President Assad is expected to address the nation in the next 24 hours to announce he is lifting the emergency law and restrictions on civil liberty…..

 

Dozens killed after siege in Iraq

 

At least 41 people have been killed after gunmen stormed a council building in northern Iraq and took dozens of hostages.

Security forces laid siege to the building in Tikrit for several hours before moving in, officials say.

Several council members and a journalist are said to be among the dead and scores more are reported wounded.

Tikrit, Saddam Hussein’s hometown, has been a bastion of a Sunni insurgency.

Officials said gunmen dressed in military uniform stormed the provincial council building after a suicide bomber detonated his explosives outside.

A long siege then began. Salahuddin provincial spokesman Mohammed al-Asi said the gunmen executed their hostages as security forces closed in.

 

 

 

March 29, 2011 Posted by | Aircraft, Blogs, Breaking News, Government, Law, Media, Military, Politics, Travel, Updates | , , , | Leave a comment

Iraq still has problems……

The US causalities are gone…..

The Major push is to move US Troops, supplies and equipment home and over to Afghanistan….

But there has been bombings in the recent days …killing innocent civilians as the political chess moves involve violence, reprisals and disruptions…..

The job in Iraq is not over..there are a lot of blood feuds to settle it would seem, and Iran…trying to exert influence in a war for power that Saddam Hussian  fought for 8 years WITh US assistance…..

Even in this rebuilding country…power invites ……serious players…

And it is occurring with the full knowledge the United States is busy packing its bags…looking to the East…..

I told you folks…..Don’t expect all the troops to leave too soon….

It ain’t gonna happen…..

The attacks, the deadliest in the capital since the March 7 parliamentary elections, come asIraq’s political factions are locked in a dispute over the outcome of the vote. Analysts say the violence could trigger a more intense round of fighting among the rivals that threatens to spill into the streets.

The strikes against the Iranian, German and Egyptian diplomatic missions appeared to be a continuation of attacks that began in August against government and high-profile buildings that killed hundreds. But accusations started soon after Sunday’s bombings, with former prime minister Ayad Allawi’s Iraqiya bloc calling on the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to “restore security” and blaming security forces for failing to prevent the attacks.

“This is a serious crime in which the Iraqi people are being consumed in the process of what we can call the conflict over who should have the upper hand in Iraq,” political analyst Ibrahim al-Sumaidaie said.

Maliki is struggling to hold on to power as his many rivals seek to dethrone him. His predominantly Shiite bloc came in a close second to Allawi’s secular slate but is trying to build a coalition large enough to form Iraq’s next government.

“The real danger is there will be more of these attacks and the political leaders will not respond the right way and they will start fighting,” said Joost Hiltermann, an Iraq expert at the International Crisis Group. “They want to exploit the current security vacuum and trigger violence between political parties. That will be a prescription for civil war.”

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Iraqi drawdown…..Afghan startup……moving the troops and whatever….Logistics…..

The US Army is drawing down in Iraq……and beefing up in Afghanistan……

The process of doing both…at the same timne….is mammoth……

But under orders from the Commander-in-Chief…..the Unites States Military……The US Army, Air Force , Navy and others will be packing up in one theatre …and trucking, railroading , shipping and flying two thousand miles around Iran to another war country…..

This piece gives an idea about what its all about……

In trying to speed 30,000 reinforcements into Afghanistan while reducing American forces in Iraq by 50,000, American commanders are orchestrating one of the largest movements of troops and matériel since World War II. Military officials say that transporting so many people and billions of dollars’ worth of equipment, weapons, housing, fuel and food in and out of both countries between now and an August deadline is as critical and difficult as what is occurring on the battlefield.

Military officials, who called the start of the five-month logistics operation “March Madness,” say it is like trying to squeeze a basketball through a narrow pipe, particularly the supply route through the Khyber Pass linking Pakistan and Afghanistan.

So many convoys loaded with American supplies came under insurgent attack in Pakistan last year that the United States military now tags each truck with a GPS device and keeps 24-hour watch by video feed at a military base in the United States. Last year the Taliban blew up a bridge near the pass, temporarily suspending the convoys.

“Hannibal trying to move over the Alps had a tremendous logistics burden, but it was nothing like the complexity we are dealing with now,” said Lt. Gen. William G. Webster, the commander of the United States Third Army. He spoke at a military base in the Kuwaiti desert before a vast sandscape upon which were armored trucks that had been driven out of Iraq and were waiting to be junked, sent home or taken on to Kabul, Afghanistan.

The general is not moving elephants, but the scale and intricacy of the operation are staggering. The military says there are 3.1 million pieces of equipment in Iraq, from tanks to coffee makers, two-thirds of which are to leave the country. Of that, about half will go on to Afghanistan, where there are already severe strains on the system.

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March 31, 2010 Posted by | Aircraft, Automobiles, Boats, Breaking News, Counterpoints, Food, Government, Men, Military, Other Things, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Travel, Updates, Women | , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

U.S. Military recognizes that in the end 'soft power' wins…..Not guns and missiles…..

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Wednesday that victory in Iraq and Afghanistan won\’t come in one glorious battle.

Instead, Adm. Mike Mullen told a Kansas State University audience, success in the long wars will be determined by use of military and diplomatic powers, along with support from U.S. allies.

Mullen said there won’t be a day when commanders ”stand up and say ‘That’s it, it’s over. We won.”’

”We will win, but we will do so only over time and only after near-constant reassessment and readjustment,” Mullen said. ”Quite frankly, it will feel a lot less like a knockout punch and a lot more like recovering from a long illness.”

Mullen said the outcome of Sunday’s elections in Iraq will indicate how well the United States is doing there. He said in recent visits to Basra and Anbar Province that Iraqis were more concerned about economics and politics than security issues leading up to the vote, which he called ”a good sign.”

He said the U.S. intends to abide by its security agreement with Iraq and reduce the level of troops there by half to about 50,000 by August.

”There’s every indication that an awful lot of Iraqis are going to vote,” Mullen said. ”I think what is next is dependent on the new Iraqi government.”

Mullen, speaking as part of Kansas State’s Landon Lecture series, said the use of military power should never be the last option, but potentially the best first option when paired with other means of national and international power.

He also noted ongoing operations in Afghanistan, where U.S. and Afghan forces have been embroiled in an offensive near Marjah to reclaim the area from Taliban fighters.

Mullen said commanders were taking a deliberate approach to minimize civilian casualties in an area considered the hub of Taliban activity, rather than using carpet bombing or missile strikes.

”Frankly, the battlefield isn’t a field anymore,” Mullen said. ”It’s in the minds of the people. It’s what they believe to be true that matters.”

He said there was no ”American way” to fighting wars and that history shows the nation’s enemies will adapt to U.S. strategy. Mullen said the U.S. will reassess its Afghanistan strategy in December and adapt accordingly.

”Trying everything else is not weakness,” he said. ”It means we don’t give up. It means we never stop learning.”

Mullen’s lecture struck a tone similar to that of Defense Secretary Robert Gates when he was on the same Kansas State stage in November 2007. Both men said the United States must do more to encourage the use of ”soft power” to resolve conflicts.

Amen……


March 3, 2010 Posted by | Aircraft, Breaking News, Counterpoints, Government, Home, Media, Men, Military, Other Things, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Updates | , , , , , | 2 Comments

U.S. Military recognizes that in the end ‘soft power’ wins…..Not guns and missiles…..

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Wednesday that victory in Iraq and Afghanistan won\’t come in one glorious battle.

Instead, Adm. Mike Mullen told a Kansas State University audience, success in the long wars will be determined by use of military and diplomatic powers, along with support from U.S. allies.

Mullen said there won’t be a day when commanders ”stand up and say ‘That’s it, it’s over. We won.”’

”We will win, but we will do so only over time and only after near-constant reassessment and readjustment,” Mullen said. ”Quite frankly, it will feel a lot less like a knockout punch and a lot more like recovering from a long illness.”

Mullen said the outcome of Sunday’s elections in Iraq will indicate how well the United States is doing there. He said in recent visits to Basra and Anbar Province that Iraqis were more concerned about economics and politics than security issues leading up to the vote, which he called ”a good sign.”

He said the U.S. intends to abide by its security agreement with Iraq and reduce the level of troops there by half to about 50,000 by August.

”There’s every indication that an awful lot of Iraqis are going to vote,” Mullen said. ”I think what is next is dependent on the new Iraqi government.”

Mullen, speaking as part of Kansas State’s Landon Lecture series, said the use of military power should never be the last option, but potentially the best first option when paired with other means of national and international power.

He also noted ongoing operations in Afghanistan, where U.S. and Afghan forces have been embroiled in an offensive near Marjah to reclaim the area from Taliban fighters.

Mullen said commanders were taking a deliberate approach to minimize civilian casualties in an area considered the hub of Taliban activity, rather than using carpet bombing or missile strikes.

”Frankly, the battlefield isn’t a field anymore,” Mullen said. ”It’s in the minds of the people. It’s what they believe to be true that matters.”

He said there was no ”American way” to fighting wars and that history shows the nation’s enemies will adapt to U.S. strategy. Mullen said the U.S. will reassess its Afghanistan strategy in December and adapt accordingly.

”Trying everything else is not weakness,” he said. ”It means we don’t give up. It means we never stop learning.”

Mullen’s lecture struck a tone similar to that of Defense Secretary Robert Gates when he was on the same Kansas State stage in November 2007. Both men said the United States must do more to encourage the use of ”soft power” to resolve conflicts.

Amen……


March 3, 2010 Posted by | Aircraft, Breaking News, Counterpoints, Government, Home, Media, Men, Military, Other Things, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Updates | , , , , , | 2 Comments

What’s the hurry in bringing troops under a certain level in Iraq?

The Dogs says…..I told you so!

Army General Ray Odierno has spoken something that any person with a half of a brain knew ……The Army has a plan to keep troops in that country AFTER President Obama’s stated deadline……and Odierno would make these statements without backing from the National Command Authorities….

Tell us something we didn’t know?

Here’s some of the pierce from the Washington Post…Here’s the link…..…..

Under a deadline set by President Obama, all combat forces are slated to withdraw from Iraq by the end of August, and there remains heavy political pressure in Washington and Baghdad to stick to that schedule. But Army Gen. Ray Odierno, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said Monday that he had briefed officials in Washington in the past week about possible contingency plans.

Odierno declined to describe the plans in detail and said he was optimistic they would not be necessary. But he said he was prepared to make the changes “if we run into problems” in the coming months.

Iraqis are scheduled to go to the polls March 7 for parliamentary elections that Iraqi and U.S. officials describe as a political milestone for the country.

With less than two weeks to go in the campaign, however, concern is rising over whether the results will be undermined by political boycotts, low turnout or an increase in bloodshed. Religious enmities and rivalries are already resurfacing.

Although U.S. diplomats and military officials said they are working intensely behind the scenes to hold the political process together, they are finding that their influence in Iraq is steadily on the wane.

“The Iraqi mood is very nationalistic at the moment and just not interested in extending the American presence,” said Marc Lynch, a political science professor at George Washington University and an expert on Iraqi politics. “When the United States gets really involved in contentious issues now, it just turns into political dynamite.”

Yea…but then there is this……..

Iraqi and U.S. officials have reported a spike in rocket attacks targeting the Green Zone in Baghdad and American bases. U.S. officials said Shiite militia groups have stocked up on rockets and other weapons, which they say are smuggled from Iran.

American officials say it has become harder to understand the scope and dynamics of violence in Iraq now that the U.S. military has a small footprint in Iraqi cities.

“Is this the beginning of sectarian warfare, is it tribal, is it AQI?” a U.S. military official said, using the abbreviation for the Sunni insurgency group al-Qaeda in Iraq. “It’s hard to know if these are localized killings for political reasons or violence to spread a blanket of fear so people don’t go to the polls.”

The Dog thinks in the end …about 30,000 troops or advisors or whatever will be hanging around to check the place from becoming a zoo……again….

February 23, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Military, Other Things, Politics, Updates | , , | Leave a comment

What's the hurry in bringing troops under a certain level in Iraq?

The Dogs says…..I told you so!

Army General Ray Odierno has spoken something that any person with a half of a brain knew ……The Army has a plan to keep troops in that country AFTER President Obama’s stated deadline……and Odierno would make these statements without backing from the National Command Authorities….

Tell us something we didn’t know?

Here’s some of the pierce from the Washington Post…Here’s the link…..…..

Under a deadline set by President Obama, all combat forces are slated to withdraw from Iraq by the end of August, and there remains heavy political pressure in Washington and Baghdad to stick to that schedule. But Army Gen. Ray Odierno, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said Monday that he had briefed officials in Washington in the past week about possible contingency plans.

Odierno declined to describe the plans in detail and said he was optimistic they would not be necessary. But he said he was prepared to make the changes “if we run into problems” in the coming months.

Iraqis are scheduled to go to the polls March 7 for parliamentary elections that Iraqi and U.S. officials describe as a political milestone for the country.

With less than two weeks to go in the campaign, however, concern is rising over whether the results will be undermined by political boycotts, low turnout or an increase in bloodshed. Religious enmities and rivalries are already resurfacing.

Although U.S. diplomats and military officials said they are working intensely behind the scenes to hold the political process together, they are finding that their influence in Iraq is steadily on the wane.

“The Iraqi mood is very nationalistic at the moment and just not interested in extending the American presence,” said Marc Lynch, a political science professor at George Washington University and an expert on Iraqi politics. “When the United States gets really involved in contentious issues now, it just turns into political dynamite.”

Yea…but then there is this……..

Iraqi and U.S. officials have reported a spike in rocket attacks targeting the Green Zone in Baghdad and American bases. U.S. officials said Shiite militia groups have stocked up on rockets and other weapons, which they say are smuggled from Iran.

American officials say it has become harder to understand the scope and dynamics of violence in Iraq now that the U.S. military has a small footprint in Iraqi cities.

“Is this the beginning of sectarian warfare, is it tribal, is it AQI?” a U.S. military official said, using the abbreviation for the Sunni insurgency group al-Qaeda in Iraq. “It’s hard to know if these are localized killings for political reasons or violence to spread a blanket of fear so people don’t go to the polls.”

The Dog thinks in the end …about 30,000 troops or advisors or whatever will be hanging around to check the place from becoming a zoo……again….

February 23, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Military, Other Things, Politics, Updates | , , | Leave a comment

Iran pushes forward in trying to increase trade to Iraq…….

Most people don’t know this…but Iraq’s strongest trading partner is Iran……

Yes……Iran……

While America and Europe seek to squeeze more sanctions on Iran…..That country seeks to improve trade with Iraq…..The Dog has said this more than once here sanctions will NOT work against the regime……which isn’t stupid…on the face of this it seems to be a deliberate move to out fox the United States strategy of trying to limit Iran’s influence in the region…..

The act of improving commercial ties to Iraq by Iran will undoubtedly pull both countries closer no matter how many troops the United States leaves behind….In addition, as the United States has done around the world commercial ties means that Iran can continue to exert influence over wide parts of the Iraqi population which will forced to trade and interact with Iran as an economic partner…..

Make no mistake….. Iraq is desperate to attract investments no matter where it come from…..

If was the American State Department and White House I would be not happy about this…which seems to be saying…

‘..Thanks Guys for getting rid of our biggest headache Saddam….now leave so we can finish up our business of assimilating Iraq into our sphere of influence.…’

Here’s the link for the piece from Reuters…….

BASRA, Iraq (Reuters) – Iran hopes to double trade with Iraq to $8 billion this year, an Iranian diplomat said on Sunday, shrugging off Western-backed sanctions aimed at curbing business with the Islamic Republic.

Shi’ite Muslim Iran is the main trading partner of Shi’ite-led Iraq and has been one of the largest investors in Iraq since the fall of Sunni dictatorSaddam Hussein.

A series of agreements between Baghdad and Tehran could boost bilateral trade between the two countries to $8 billion in 2010, up from $4 billion last year, Iran’s consul in the southern oil hub of Basra Mohammed Reza Baghban said.

“We are sure that, if there are no obstacles in Iraqi-Iranian economic relations, bilateral trade between the two countries will be double what it was in 2009,” he told reporters at an Iranian trade fair in Basra.

The main areas of trade between the two countries are the construction, food and industrial sectors.

The United States and its European allies have been trying to pressure Iran to suspend its disputed nuclear programme, which the West suspects is aimed at making bombs. Tehran says the programme is for peaceful purposes and will not be halted.

The Islamic state is currently under U.S. and U.N. sanctions.

Iraq wants to boost economic ties with its neighbors and attract investment to develop an infrastructure and economy battered by years of war, under-investment and sanctions.

February 21, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Other Things, Politics, The Economy, Updates | , , , , , | 3 Comments

‘If you can’t beat’m join’m’….The US puts Kurdish and Iraqi troops together to patrol their border…..

A string of checkpoints has appeared on the roads that spoke out from this volatile city, guarded by hundreds of American soldiers working with Arab and Kurdish troops. The joint operation along one ofIraq’s ethnic trouble spots began with a deliberate lack of fanfare, but it constitutes the most significant military mission by American forces since they largely retreated to bases outside Iraq’s cities in June.

More than two dozen checkpoints now punctuate a snaking line that traces — from Syria to Iran — the unofficial and very much disputed boundary between Iraq’s federal forces and those of the Kurdish regional government. At times these forces have operated virtually as opposing armies rather than as compatriots of a single nation, but at the checkpoints they now live and operate together for the first time since the war began.Guarding checkpoints — a task the American military never relishes — invites attacks by insurgents, who remain particularly active in northern Iraq. And every night during a three-night stretch, rockets or mortars landed near three of the checkpoints in Diyala Province, though they caused no casualties, according to an American military spokesman and an Iraqi military official. “You stay static,” as First Sgt. Tony DelSardo, of the Army’s Third Infantry Division, put it on Saturday, “you’ll get hit.”

The operation began this month after labored negotiations with Iraq’s Arab and Kurdish leaders. The immediate goal is to bolster security ahead of bitterly contested elections in March along an ethnic patchwork of lands that has been devastated by catastrophic attacks.

The ultimate strategy is to defuse political tensions along a fault line that could easily rupture, sundering the country once American forces leave, or even before. The operation underscores the extent to which American military remains an arbiter of Iraq’s most intractable conflicts.

“What we’re doing is forcing the wound to close,” Lt. Col. Christopher L. Connelly, a battalion commander with the First Armored Division, said at one of the new checkpoints being erected on the highway that links Mosul to Erbil, the capital of the Kurdish region.

This seems to be a very good move…..The Dog believes that when it’s said and done……Iraq will be divided into Federal States just as Vice President Joe Biden suggested a year ago…and that won’t be a bad thing at all…..

January 26, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Military, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Religion, Updates | , , , | 2 Comments