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The Special Ops War between the SOCOM and the CIA in Afghanistan and Pakistan….Part 3

The Dog has written two pieces on the Special Ops war in Afghanistan and Pakistan…..

Part 1 Here………….….and Part 2 Here………….

We have Part 3 which clears the Forest from th Tree’s….

In   a piece in the Atlantic….Marc Ambinder flushes out why Part 1 and 2 ended up ….

The issue is …..The CIA has been given Carte Blanche to operate in Afghanistan to hunt and kill bad guys……The Military does not….

The orignal orders came from Theatre Commander Patreaus from US CEntral Command/CENTCOM

US Special Operators ROE’s* require them to phone home for clearance……

While Ambinder writes that Greg Miller of the Washington Post had an exclusive on the Issue…..

The Dog has been following the issue in two pieces in the New York Times that I have posted up by Mark Mazzetti……

Ambinder goes on to point out that the info in the WashPost and NY Times seem to be systemic leaks by the Special Operations Command/SOCOM ) military complaining about the arrangement that gives the CIA free rein to ‘deal with’ anyone on a approved ‘bad guy’ list and the US service Special Ops teams have to ‘call it in’….

No of course Ambinder relates there is a political Bullshit line that US Troops don’t operate in Pakistan…..So ofcourse the way around that is make sure the people operating in- Country are CIA Operators…NOT Military Operators….

Mazzetti goes into a bit about is the all this stuff legal…..And the Dog points out that the reporter puts in the the Generals prosecuting the war don’t mind getting the ‘takes’ info …no matter where it comes from…..and no one really wants the thing to stop…so the legal question really isn’t an issue…the whole thing works……

Ambinder goes on to confirm that contrary to earlier times…The Paksitanis ARE working with the US and get real time feeds from Prator drones…

When the drones find stuff the Pakistanis get it, SOCOM gets it…..and yes the CIA  intel teams get it…..The difference is the CIa teams can act on it…the SOCOM teams have to again…’phone home’…..

SOCOM’s operators are very much on the periphery of the shooting in Pakistan. They have much freer reign in Afghanistan. But even there, they’re being constrained by the intelligence they receive, and most of the human tips come from the CIA, or are laundered through the CIA’s relationships with foreign intelligence organizations.
SOCOM is not questioning the effectiveness of the drone program. What they want is encapsulated in these paragraphs:

U.S. Special Operations teams in Afghanistan have pushed for years to have wider latitude to carry out raids across the border, arguing that CIA drone strikes do not yield prisoners or other opportunities to gather intelligence. But a 2008 U.S. helicopter raid against a target in Pakistan prompted protests from officials in Islamabad who oppose allowing U.S. soldiers to operate within their country. The CIA has the authority to designate and strike targets in Pakistan without case-by-case approval from the White House. U.S. military forces are currently authorized to carry out unilateral strikes in Pakistan only if solid intelligence were to surface on any of three high-value targets: al-Qaeda leaders Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, or Taliban chief Mohammad Omar. But even in those cases, the military would need higher-level approval.

Read that carefully. The regular special operations forces have less authority to target … targets than the CIA, a strategic intelligence gathering agency, … IN A WAR. That’s the embedded news in the piece. SOCOM is trying to send a message to policy-makers and the public: they’ve got the capacity to help a lot more then they are helping, and they’re being hamstrung by legal authorities that don’t make sense to them. One point of the joint task force concept embraced by the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) and SOCOM is to crowd out the CIA’s paramilitary operations in the Af-Pak war theater.

More……..

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May 30, 2010 Posted by | Blogs, Breaking News, Counterpoints, Government, Law, Media, Men, Military, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Updates | , , , , , , , , , | 1 Comment

The Battle for Kandahar…….

An American military convoy traveled down a highway Saturday in Kandahar Province.

US Special operators have been picking off leaders of the Tailabn..while convental troops start the slow build-up and offense against the Taliban strongholds in Afghanistan’s second largest city…..

The US does not want a large military occupation force in place…..perfferring a small foot print….

The push goes on with the Taliban fighting back.,….but giving up ground……

Small bands of elite American Special Operations forces have been operating with increased intensity for several weeks in Kandahar, southern Afghanistan’s largest city, picking up or picking off insurgent leaders to weaken the Talibanin advance of major operations, senior administration and military officials say.

The looming battle for the spiritual home of the Taliban is shaping up as the pivotal test of President Obama’s Afghanistan strategy, including how much the United States can count on the country’s leaders and military for support, and whether a possible increase in civilian casualties from heavy fighting will compromise a strategy that depends on winning over the Afghan people.

It will follow a first offensive, into the hamlet of Marja, that isshowing mixed results. And it will require the United States and its Afghan partners to navigate a battleground that is not only much bigger than Marja but also militarily, politically and culturally more complex.

Two months after the Marja offensive, Afghan officials acknowledge that the Taliban have in some ways retaken the momentum there, including killing or beating locals allied with the central government and its American backers. “We are still waiting to see the outcome in Marja,” said Shaida Abdali, the deputy Afghan national security adviser. “If you are planning for operations in Kandahar, you must show success in Marja. You have to be able to point to something. Now you don’t have a good example to point to there.”

The battle for Kandahar has become the make-or-break offensive of the eight-and-half-year war. The question is whether military force, softened with appeals to the local populace, can overcome a culture built on distrust of outsiders, including foreign forces and even neighboring tribes.

More than a dozen senior military and civilian officials directly involved in the Kandahar operation agreed to discuss the outlines of the offensive on the condition that they not be identified discussing a pending operation. But in general, the military under Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the senior American and allied commander, has been willing to talk about operations in advance to try to scare off insurgents and convince the local population that their government and its allies are moving to increase security.

Instead of the quick punch that opened the Marja offensive, the operation in Kandahar, a sprawling urban area, is designed to be a slowly rising tide of military action. That is why the opening salvos of the offensive are being carried out in the shadows by Special Operations forces.

“Large numbers of insurgent leadership based in and around Kandahar have been captured or killed,” said one senior American military officer directly involved in planning the Kandahar offensive. But, he acknowledged, “it’s still a contested battle space.”

Senior American and allied commanders say the goal is to have very little visible American presence inside Kandahar city itself, with that effort carried by Afghan Army and police units.

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April 26, 2010 Posted by | Aircraft, Breaking News, Government, Media, Men, Military, Other Things, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Updates | , , , , , | 1 Comment

Turns out the Afghan CIA bombing was a 'tit for tat'….

The bombing of CIA Forward Operation Base Chapman in Khowst, where seven CIA officers died Wednesday was most probably in retribution from warlord Jalaluddin Haqqani ,who was backed by the CIA in the 1980’s against the Russians…….it is reported that after 9/11 in 2001 that the warlord aligned himself with Bin Laden instead of the CIA…….and thus subject his operation to CIA controlled U.S. Predator attacks…..

While the media has reported this as a neutral incident…the understory is the CIA is hurt and pissed…..the loss of seven of its members will not be forgotten and Haqqani and his operation will probably on the top of the CIA and Predator (UAV) punch lists…….

“If it wasn’t personal before, it sure as hell is now,” a furious counterterror official said Thursday.

Here’s some links……..NY DailyNewsNYTimes…..WashingtonPost……

Note:…..The bombing has highlighted the fact that the CIA is in there fighting alongside the U.S. military, NATO  and other countries military in the Afghan war campaign……

Note #2:……The CIA directed Predator strikes continued after the attack……

January 1, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Men, Military, Politics, Travel | , , , , , | 2 Comments

Turns out the Afghan CIA bombing was a ‘tit for tat’….

The bombing of CIA Forward Operation Base Chapman in Khowst, where seven CIA officers died Wednesday was most probably in retribution from warlord Jalaluddin Haqqani ,who was backed by the CIA in the 1980’s against the Russians…….it is reported that after 9/11 in 2001 that the warlord aligned himself with Bin Laden instead of the CIA…….and thus subject his operation to CIA controlled U.S. Predator attacks…..

While the media has reported this as a neutral incident…the understory is the CIA is hurt and pissed…..the loss of seven of its members will not be forgotten and Haqqani and his operation will probably on the top of the CIA and Predator (UAV) punch lists…….

“If it wasn’t personal before, it sure as hell is now,” a furious counterterror official said Thursday.

Here’s some links……..NY DailyNewsNYTimes…..WashingtonPost……

Note:…..The bombing has highlighted the fact that the CIA is in there fighting alongside the U.S. military, NATO  and other countries military in the Afghan war campaign……

Note #2:……The CIA directed Predator strikes continued after the attack……

January 1, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Men, Military, Politics, Travel | , , , , , | 2 Comments

American's are not wanted in Pakistan…….

I did a post a while ago about the sensitivity of the Pakistani population to an American escalation of the war against the Taliban and al-Qeada…..well things are getting worst….while the administration does not want to make a big deal about this…..the Big bosses in Pakistan are all right with the war build-up…..the middle to lower ones are not……..The New York Times has broke the story that Pakistan Military and Intelligence people have begun a coordinated program to harass and inhibit Americans from doing ‘war’ business in their country……in other words…‘They want to the American’s to pack up and leave their country’…..

This is not light matter…..

I posted earlier that the average Pakistani hates that United States flys Predator drones from bases in their country……they fear that civilians will be killed in the UAV attacks…..in addition, the average Pakistani is more worried about Indian aggression then the Taliban and al-Quedea…which are not looked as problems……

So as the United States and NATO ramp up their war campiagn in Aftghanistn (30, 000+ troops and additional militray aid $$$ to Pakistan…which is now on hold)….American personnel are not getting Pakistani help…..they are getting shown the door…….

All of the negative headlines about Blackwater, which now calls it self the Xe company hasn’t help stopped the Pakistani whispering campaigns against Americans…..

The United States has growing problem with the countries police, and military, who have targeted american diplomats and military members for all forms of petty harassment……The Big bosses seem powerless to prevent these situations from escalating……..

December 16, 2009 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Military, Politics, Travel | , , , , , | 22 Comments

American’s are not wanted in Pakistan…….

I did a post a while ago about the sensitivity of the Pakistani population to an American escalation of the war against the Taliban and al-Qeada…..well things are getting worst….while the administration does not want to make a big deal about this…..the Big bosses in Pakistan are all right with the war build-up…..the middle to lower ones are not……..The New York Times has broke the story that Pakistan Military and Intelligence people have begun a coordinated program to harass and inhibit Americans from doing ‘war’ business in their country……in other words…‘They want to the American’s to pack up and leave their country’…..

This is not light matter…..

I posted earlier that the average Pakistani hates that United States flys Predator drones from bases in their country……they fear that civilians will be killed in the UAV attacks…..in addition, the average Pakistani is more worried about Indian aggression then the Taliban and al-Quedea…which are not looked as problems……

So as the United States and NATO ramp up their war campiagn in Aftghanistn (30, 000+ troops and additional militray aid $$$ to Pakistan…which is now on hold)….American personnel are not getting Pakistani help…..they are getting shown the door…….

All of the negative headlines about Blackwater, which now calls it self the Xe company hasn’t help stopped the Pakistani whispering campaigns against Americans…..

The United States has growing problem with the countries police, and military, who have targeted american diplomats and military members for all forms of petty harassment……The Big bosses seem powerless to prevent these situations from escalating……..

December 16, 2009 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Military, Politics, Travel | , , , , , | 22 Comments

News Flash!….Contractors go to war with the troops!

The New York Times and Washington Post breathlessly write that Backwater (Xe Services now) was working for the Central Intelligence Agency in Pakistan helping them with secret raids and servicing the Predator UAV’s making strikes in that country…..

I hope nobody is surprised with that news…..because when the UNited States goers to war…Defense and other contractors go to war also…..

They are probably working for just about every agency in both Afghanistan and Iraq…doing everything from serving foot, cleaning facilities , to yep…fighting and arming Predator drones…..And get this …they are working all over the world for the United States…helping the U.S. Navy work complex systems on ships…including combat ships…helping the U.S. Air Force repair and update combat aircraft and helping the US. Army field combat systems…..

Blackwater  or  XE, is, I’m sure, still working for the State department in Iraq and Afghanistan…they just maintain a higher profile that most companies….. That quietly go about their business, of making things work for the United States government 24/7…….

Update:…..Here’s an example of a contract worker ( his employer is Development Alternatives ) getting in hot soup in Cuba…and he supposedly works for the U.S. Agency for International Development……..ah, why hand out cell phones in Cuba?….it’s a closed society…even I would know that sooner or later this guy was going to get roused by Cuba intelligence people for ‘spreading the word’…….

December 12, 2009 Posted by | Government, Media, Military, Politics, The Economy | , , , , , | 2 Comments