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Will the Gitmo Five be tried in NYC…or not?……

For the past few days the media has proclaimed that the trials will be moved from the Federal CourtHouse in downtown New York City….This possoble move….as everything since the ‘Scott Brown effectr’ kicked in may have a political side to it……

The Hill…the Paper and website has a piece out today saying the White House STILL wants the trial held in New York…..

If one goes back and carefully checks all the media stories one will find that the United States Department of Justice has not indicated in any way shape or form the trial will actually be moved……

You will see all sorts of quotes…from unnamed sources….but no…..”we will move the trial”….from anyone…..

And I think that’s because the political thing has kicked in at the White House…not Justice……someone in one the meetings on this ….has pushed back and surely said…..’the Mayor of the City of New York doesn’t tell the Federal Government what to do…and when…’

and of course…that’s correct…..and judging by the two links I’ve provided in this piece…..the feelings are divided……

Sure businesses are going to lose money…and downtown New York is gonna be locked down…..but alot of people also want the trials to go on…in the City so that they can see the results ……

My guess is they will probably go somewhere else…..

But you never know…..

The political side might just say…..We’re the government and WE decide where we do this…….

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January 31, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Law, Media, Men, Military, Other Things, PoliticalDogs Merlin, Politics, September 11, The Economy, Travel, Updates | , , , , | Leave a comment

Bloomberg gets ‘cold feet’…….Maybe the terror trials shouldn’t be in New York?

Wow!….who could have seen this coming?……

Right after he asks the fed’s for $75 million to host the trials in downtown Manhattan….The New York City Mayor  (a closet Republican) changes his mind and muses out load maybe the trials shouldn’t be in the City after all…...What’s with this?

Is this politics.?……or does he just want to keep the money and tell the Fed’s to go scratch?

The Obama administration on Wednesday lost its most prominent backer of the plan to try the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks in Lower Manhattan when Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said the trial should not be held in New York City.

The mayor’s reversal was a political blow to the White House’s efforts to resolve a landmark terror case a few blocks from where Al Qaeda hijackers rammed planes into the World Trade Center, a trial that the president saw as an important demonstration of American justice.

Mr. Bloomberg said that a more secure location, like a military base, would be less disruptive and less costly. His remarks echoed growing opposition from Wall Street executives, the real estate industry and neighborhood groups, who have questioned the burdens that such a trial would bring to a heavily trafficked area of the city.

“It’s going to cost an awful lot of money and disturb an awful lot of people,” Mr. Bloomberg said at a news conference in Brooklyn. “My hope is that the attorney general and the president decide to change their mind.“

Or…could it be this?…….

Mr. Bloomberg had steadfastly supported the location of the trial. When the news broke two months ago, he declared, “It is fitting that 9/11 suspects face justice near the World Trade Center site, where so many New Yorkers were murdered.”

But over the past few weeks, he has heard from scores of business and community leaders who urged him to reverse course. Real estate brokers argued that security restrictions would dampen the market for apartments in Chinatown and TriBeCa; small-business owners feared a severe drop-off in customers; and residents worried that they would be unable to use their local streets.

The Police Department has said that in preparation for the trial, the area around the courthouse would be flooded with uniformed police officers, in cars and on horseback, and surrounded by 2,000 interlocking metal barriers.

“I believe it would destroy the economy in Lower Manhattan,” said Steve Spinola, president of the Real Estate Board of New York, which represents property owners. He has urged the mayor’s office to speak out against holding the trial in the city.

The city estimated it would spend more than $200 million a year on security for the trial, making it one of the most expensive security operations it would ever take on.

City Hall aides said that the complex trial could drag on for years, eventually costing the city close to $1 billion in the middle of a deep recession, though most of that is expected to be shouldered by the federal government.

Raymond W. Kelly, the city’s police commissioner, while publicly supporting the mayor’s earlier position, has also expressed alarm over the impact of the trial on the Police Department, which has shrunk significantly since Mr. Bloomberg took office in 2002. Providing security for the court case, he has told city officials, would “suck the oxygen” from the department and leave it little flexibility to pursue new initiatives, according to people told of the conversations.

On Wednesday, Mr. Bloomberg said the city could ultimately handle hosting the trial, but said it would be better if it were held outside the city.

“Can we provide security? Yes. Could you provide security elsewhere? Yeah,” he said. “The suggestion of a military base is probably a reasonably good one.”

Mr. Bloomberg added, with a hint of sarcasm, “It would be great if the federal government could find a site that didn’t cost a billion dollars, which using downtown will.”

The Dog says…….Hummmmm?

Update………

President Obama has not changed his view on whether the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks should face trial in New York City, a White House spokesman said today, despite fresh criticism from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg that the proceedings should be moved from Manhattan.

“The president is committed to seeing that he’s brought to justice. He agrees with the attorney general’s opinion in November that he and others can be litigated successfully and secured in the United States of America,” Mr. Burton said. “Currently our federal jails hold hundreds of convicted terrorists and the president’s opinion has not changed on that.”

January 28, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Other Things, Politics, September 11, The Economy, Travel, Updates | , | Leave a comment

Bloomberg gets 'cold feet'…….Maybe the terror trials shouldn't be in New York?

Wow!….who could have seen this coming?……

Right after he asks the fed’s for $75 million to host the trials in downtown Manhattan….The New York City Mayor  (a closet Republican) changes his mind and muses out load maybe the trials shouldn’t be in the City after all…...What’s with this?

Is this politics.?……or does he just want to keep the money and tell the Fed’s to go scratch?

The Obama administration on Wednesday lost its most prominent backer of the plan to try the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks in Lower Manhattan when Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said the trial should not be held in New York City.

The mayor’s reversal was a political blow to the White House’s efforts to resolve a landmark terror case a few blocks from where Al Qaeda hijackers rammed planes into the World Trade Center, a trial that the president saw as an important demonstration of American justice.

Mr. Bloomberg said that a more secure location, like a military base, would be less disruptive and less costly. His remarks echoed growing opposition from Wall Street executives, the real estate industry and neighborhood groups, who have questioned the burdens that such a trial would bring to a heavily trafficked area of the city.

“It’s going to cost an awful lot of money and disturb an awful lot of people,” Mr. Bloomberg said at a news conference in Brooklyn. “My hope is that the attorney general and the president decide to change their mind.“

Or…could it be this?…….

Mr. Bloomberg had steadfastly supported the location of the trial. When the news broke two months ago, he declared, “It is fitting that 9/11 suspects face justice near the World Trade Center site, where so many New Yorkers were murdered.”

But over the past few weeks, he has heard from scores of business and community leaders who urged him to reverse course. Real estate brokers argued that security restrictions would dampen the market for apartments in Chinatown and TriBeCa; small-business owners feared a severe drop-off in customers; and residents worried that they would be unable to use their local streets.

The Police Department has said that in preparation for the trial, the area around the courthouse would be flooded with uniformed police officers, in cars and on horseback, and surrounded by 2,000 interlocking metal barriers.

“I believe it would destroy the economy in Lower Manhattan,” said Steve Spinola, president of the Real Estate Board of New York, which represents property owners. He has urged the mayor’s office to speak out against holding the trial in the city.

The city estimated it would spend more than $200 million a year on security for the trial, making it one of the most expensive security operations it would ever take on.

City Hall aides said that the complex trial could drag on for years, eventually costing the city close to $1 billion in the middle of a deep recession, though most of that is expected to be shouldered by the federal government.

Raymond W. Kelly, the city’s police commissioner, while publicly supporting the mayor’s earlier position, has also expressed alarm over the impact of the trial on the Police Department, which has shrunk significantly since Mr. Bloomberg took office in 2002. Providing security for the court case, he has told city officials, would “suck the oxygen” from the department and leave it little flexibility to pursue new initiatives, according to people told of the conversations.

On Wednesday, Mr. Bloomberg said the city could ultimately handle hosting the trial, but said it would be better if it were held outside the city.

“Can we provide security? Yes. Could you provide security elsewhere? Yeah,” he said. “The suggestion of a military base is probably a reasonably good one.”

Mr. Bloomberg added, with a hint of sarcasm, “It would be great if the federal government could find a site that didn’t cost a billion dollars, which using downtown will.”

The Dog says…….Hummmmm?

Update………

President Obama has not changed his view on whether the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks should face trial in New York City, a White House spokesman said today, despite fresh criticism from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg that the proceedings should be moved from Manhattan.

“The president is committed to seeing that he’s brought to justice. He agrees with the attorney general’s opinion in November that he and others can be litigated successfully and secured in the United States of America,” Mr. Burton said. “Currently our federal jails hold hundreds of convicted terrorists and the president’s opinion has not changed on that.”

January 28, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Government, Media, Other Things, Politics, September 11, The Economy, Travel, Updates | , | Leave a comment