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The White House and Senate are close to deal on the Gitmo detainees….doing military trials not civilian ones…..

The deal is being done by the White House….. just as the Dog predicted it would be…..

AG Eric Holder will be told the results……

The Dog mentioned in a past before that Obama won’t make the rookie mistake of letting a cabinet member make a policy decision that will put him a jam anymore….this isn’t unexpected …..all president’s go thru this transformation…learning that in the confrontational world of national politics you cannot afford to let people make decisions just on their merits (imagine that! ) …..politics rears its head in everything…..

Here’s some of the piece from the Wall Street Journal…….

The White House is nearing a deal with a bipartisan group of senators to close the Guantanamo Bay prison and pave the way for more detainees to be tried before military commissions, a move that would reverse a signature Obama administration security policy.

The deal would put the alleged mastermind of the attacks of September 2001, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, his fellow plotters and other top terror suspects before revamped military commissions, rather than in civilian trials as the Obama administration had sought. These courts would offer defendants more rights than they had under the Bush administration, but fewer than they would be afforded in civilian court.

The effort, led by White House counsel Robert Bauer and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, further sidelines Attorney General Eric Holder, who at a hearing Tuesday continued to argue that the planners of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and other terrorists should be given civilian federal trials.

Any such deal would represent the final repudiation of Mr. Holder’s November decision to bring the 9/11 plotters to civilian trial in New York City, and a switch for the White House, which suspended the Bush-era military commissions as one of its first acts in office. The White House and the Justice Department appear to be at loggerheads on the matter, and Justice Department officials say they are not a party to the negotiations.

The framework of the deal is being led in Congress by Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Mr. Graham wants civilian courts to be reserved for low-level Al Qaeda operatives and terrorist financiers, a far smaller group than previously considered.

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March 19, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Counterpoints, Crime, Government, Law, Media, Men, Military, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, September 11, Updates | , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The White House looks to reverse Attorney General Holder on the Terror Trials…….

Finally getting the message that although Presdient Obama made acampaign promise to try the Girmo 5 and others in civilan courts…the fact is Oabam is the president now…and that policy really doesn’t make too much sense is just needlessly pissing people off and giving the Republicans ammo to shot at them…..

While nice in theory …the practical thing is NOT parade these people in showroom trials that will become political not legal theatre…..

My suggestion…swallow hard…and come out and tell the world you’re keeping Gitmo open……

If you want to bring some of the lesser bad guys to the Michigan prison…do that…but there is absolutly no reaason to carry on with trial is Fedearl Corts in New Yrok City or elsewhere in the United States..leave the bad guys on Castro’s Cubian island……

Here’s the piece……

The president’s advisers feel increasingly hemmed in bybipartisan opposition to a federal trial in New York and demands, mainly from Republicans, that Mohammed and his accused co-conspirators remain under military jurisdiction, officials said. While Obama has favored trying some terrorism suspects in civilian courts as a symbol of U.S. commitment to the rule of law, critics have said military tribunals are the appropriate venue for those accused of attacking the United States.

If Obama accepts the likely recommendation of his advisers, the White House may be able to secure from Congress the funding and legal authority it needs to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and replace it with a facility within the United States. The administration has failed to meet a self-imposed one-year deadline to close Guantanamo.

The administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said the president’s legal advisers are finalizing their review of the cases of Mohammed and four alleged co-conspirators. Asked about the process, White House press secretaryRobert Gibbs said that “no decisions have been made.”

Privately, administration officials are bracing for the ire of disappointed liberals and even some government lawyers should the administration back away from promises to use civilian courts to adjudicate the cases of some of the 188 detainees who remain at Guantanamo.

‘A sad day’

Marine Col. Jeffrey Colwell, acting chief defense counsel at the Defense Department’s Office of Military Commissions, said it would be a “sad day for the rule of law” if Obama decides not to proceed with a federal trial. “I thought the decision where to put people on trial — whether federal court or military commissions — was based on what was right, not what is politically advantageous,” Colwell said.

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March 5, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Counterpoints, Crime, Government, Law, Media, Military, Other Things, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, September 11, Updates | , , , , , , | 7 Comments

Eric Holder The Attorney General learns that even the nation’s Top Cop has to play Politics…..

[United States Attorney General Eric H. Holder at home ]

In a humanizing and process piece in today’s New York Times the White House goes about the trying to taking the heat off the decision by Holder and the President to try the Gitmo 5 in the downtown New York City Federal Court House……

The Dog is sure that they both feel a little like they got set-up on this one……The piece intimates that the decision was Attorney general Holder’s to make…..which he did after talking in house and with officials in New York City…..Holder who is from Queens, New York must assuredly thought that the New York City Police Department , the largest U.S. Police Department  (over 30,000 strong ) could certainly handle the security of trial being handled in the city…..and when notified of his decision did in fact step up to the plate……

But the problem was not in the details and logistics…it came after a while in the political sense…..

Mayor Bloomberg , who was happy with the plan,  prestige and money…...began to hear whispers from concerned business people in downtown New York City about the effect of all those closures and lockdowns that would come with the trial…..Those whispers began to become loud and vocal when those people realized that a trial could take up to a year……and as the fact of the trial sank in people, even those not in the city….began to get scared……

The trial itself was always a political decision…Obama promised it as a delineation from his administration from George Bush’s (that divination is almost completely gone in respect to Iraq and Afghanistan)

And so New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg did a 180 in public a little while ago and turned the issue on its head and gave the Republican’s yet another weapon to throw at the Obama administration…..

To be fair…..Eric Holder is a Cabinet Secretary…he gets a bit of a pass because of the Gonzalez US Attorney hiring scandal…..but all major decisions initiated by the Administration have political sides and Holder has found this out the hard way….so far the say says he’s resiresisitedsited get ting a White House political person in stalled (I think of the old Russian policy from Tom Clancy’s The Hunt for Red October ) but the  fact is….in a little while there most certainly will be one in place……the White House simply cannot afford having Holder make a political mistake before Obama reelection start-up…..even if Holder has the law on his side…..He still serves at the pleasure of the President and the President surely wants another term…..

Here’s the link for the piece which starts off like this….. ………

Last winter, when Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. called the United States a “nation of cowards” for avoiding frank conversations on race, President Obama mildly rebuked him in public.

Out of view, Mr. Obama’s aides did far more. Rahm Emanuel and Jim Messina, the White House chief and deputy chief of staff, proposed installing a minder alongside Mr. Holder to prevent further gaffes — someone with better “political antennae,” as one administration official put it.

When he heard of the proposal at a White House meeting, Mr. Holder fumed; soon after, he confronted his deputy, David W. Ogden, who knew of the plan but had not alerted his boss, according to several officials. Mr. Holder fought off the proposal, signaling that his job was about the law, not political messaging.

A year later, he is no longer so certain. His most important plan — to try Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, in federal court in Manhattan — collapsed before it even began, after support from the public and local officials withered.

Now Mr. Holder has switched from resisting what he had considered encroachment by White House political officials to seeking their guidance. Two weeks ago, he met with advisers there to discuss how to unite against common foes. They agreed to allow Mr. Holder, who has not appeared on a Sunday talk show since entering office, to speak out more; he agreed to let them help hone his message.

The political attacks over terrorism cases were “starting to constrain my ability to function as attorney general,” he said in an interview last week. “I have to do a better job in explaining the decisions that I have made,” Mr. Holder also said, adding, “I have to be more forceful in advocating for why I believe these are trials that should be held on the civilian side.”

But now Mr. Holder is in the awkward position of pushing for an approach that he acknowledges he would accept defeat on. The administration hopes to announce a new venue for the Sept. 11 trial within three weeks, he said last Tuesday. But Congress could pass legislation requiring that Mr. Mohammed be tried by a military commission, or Mr. Obama himself could change direction.

“You always have to be flexible,” Mr. Holder said, allowing that justice could be served in a commission trial, too, and praising generals who “adapt their game plans” as the situation changes.

February 15, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Counterpoints, Crime, Family, Government, Law, Media, Men, Other Things, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Updates | , , , | 6 Comments

Eric Holder The Attorney General learns that even the nation's Top Cop has to play Politics…..

[United States Attorney General Eric H. Holder at home ]

In a humanizing and process piece in today’s New York Times the White House goes about the trying to taking the heat off the decision by Holder and the President to try the Gitmo 5 in the downtown New York City Federal Court House……

The Dog is sure that they both feel a little like they got set-up on this one……The piece intimates that the decision was Attorney general Holder’s to make…..which he did after talking in house and with officials in New York City…..Holder who is from Queens, New York must assuredly thought that the New York City Police Department , the largest U.S. Police Department  (over 30,000 strong ) could certainly handle the security of trial being handled in the city…..and when notified of his decision did in fact step up to the plate……

But the problem was not in the details and logistics…it came after a while in the political sense…..

Mayor Bloomberg , who was happy with the plan,  prestige and money…...began to hear whispers from concerned business people in downtown New York City about the effect of all those closures and lockdowns that would come with the trial…..Those whispers began to become loud and vocal when those people realized that a trial could take up to a year……and as the fact of the trial sank in people, even those not in the city….began to get scared……

The trial itself was always a political decision…Obama promised it as a delineation from his administration from George Bush’s (that divination is almost completely gone in respect to Iraq and Afghanistan)

And so New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg did a 180 in public a little while ago and turned the issue on its head and gave the Republican’s yet another weapon to throw at the Obama administration…..

To be fair…..Eric Holder is a Cabinet Secretary…he gets a bit of a pass because of the Gonzalez US Attorney hiring scandal…..but all major decisions initiated by the Administration have political sides and Holder has found this out the hard way….so far the say says he’s resiresisitedsited get ting a White House political person in stalled (I think of the old Russian policy from Tom Clancy’s The Hunt for Red October ) but the  fact is….in a little while there most certainly will be one in place……the White House simply cannot afford having Holder make a political mistake before Obama reelection start-up…..even if Holder has the law on his side…..He still serves at the pleasure of the President and the President surely wants another term…..

Here’s the link for the piece which starts off like this….. ………

Last winter, when Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. called the United States a “nation of cowards” for avoiding frank conversations on race, President Obama mildly rebuked him in public.

Out of view, Mr. Obama’s aides did far more. Rahm Emanuel and Jim Messina, the White House chief and deputy chief of staff, proposed installing a minder alongside Mr. Holder to prevent further gaffes — someone with better “political antennae,” as one administration official put it.

When he heard of the proposal at a White House meeting, Mr. Holder fumed; soon after, he confronted his deputy, David W. Ogden, who knew of the plan but had not alerted his boss, according to several officials. Mr. Holder fought off the proposal, signaling that his job was about the law, not political messaging.

A year later, he is no longer so certain. His most important plan — to try Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, in federal court in Manhattan — collapsed before it even began, after support from the public and local officials withered.

Now Mr. Holder has switched from resisting what he had considered encroachment by White House political officials to seeking their guidance. Two weeks ago, he met with advisers there to discuss how to unite against common foes. They agreed to allow Mr. Holder, who has not appeared on a Sunday talk show since entering office, to speak out more; he agreed to let them help hone his message.

The political attacks over terrorism cases were “starting to constrain my ability to function as attorney general,” he said in an interview last week. “I have to do a better job in explaining the decisions that I have made,” Mr. Holder also said, adding, “I have to be more forceful in advocating for why I believe these are trials that should be held on the civilian side.”

But now Mr. Holder is in the awkward position of pushing for an approach that he acknowledges he would accept defeat on. The administration hopes to announce a new venue for the Sept. 11 trial within three weeks, he said last Tuesday. But Congress could pass legislation requiring that Mr. Mohammed be tried by a military commission, or Mr. Obama himself could change direction.

“You always have to be flexible,” Mr. Holder said, allowing that justice could be served in a commission trial, too, and praising generals who “adapt their game plans” as the situation changes.

February 15, 2010 Posted by | Breaking News, Counterpoints, Crime, Family, Government, Law, Media, Men, Other Things, PoliticalDog Calls, Politics, Updates | , , , | 6 Comments